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Hi Eoghan,
Well when we started we did a shot of advertising and decided after to build slowly, trying to focus our efforts , getting things screened in the Film Festival and trying as much as possible to make personal contacts . When you blast out flyers or posters a lot of the time people don’t fully know what the forum is about , join then might never look again ( generally if they don’t get a call from Speilberg in a week ,some people don’t bother ) as well as that it tends to be left on the doorstep of the core people to do the advertising, and time becomes an issue ( we have asked a few times for people interested in giving out flyers , and then not had a huge response.) And flyers, posters and the lot costs money. Not griping really just explaining why we haven’t actively advertised and sought increased membership. although word of mouth has served well in the past year , as membership has doubled
That said now is a good time to actively go and recruit , and with the formation of the club it could be a particular item to look at and go after, raising the profile more. Given the projects we have coming to fruition at the moment it will be a whole area that will be getting Focus anyway.
As to the first thing you said , that’s always been the way of it , and always will be the way of it , It’s an independent Production Company , that just so happens to be structured and managed as a club.
Picture a possible scenario : – it’s 2010 an egomotion member has written a great script , which has been developed by the club , a pilot trailer shot by the club , and a deal signed off by the club with Sony pictures and the Feature shot as a joint Sony /egomotion production Done in Ireland , pro crew and egomotion members working in the departments and it’s a box office smash that feeds so much money into the club we buy a plot of land after and build a studio .
Now I know I’m dreaming , but you have to aim high , and it isn’t an impossible scenario. Hard Work , good Fun , commitment and great projects are the way to go , and even if the above scenarion doesn’t happen there’s a whole pile of in between that can happen if we put this together. Stuff that otherwise wouldn’t happen.
I’m going to make a call here and say that this thread remains open until the 22nd of February , That’s Friday week.
So any more comment or input , try and get it in before that . I’d like to hold the First AGM in early March .As far as I can make out a solid insurance policy will cost around €600 annually for up to 50 people, there are other types of personal insurances ( that cover public liability for individuals in a group ) that may be cheaper, if the numbers are small ( ie 10 people at €40 a head ) but they might not have the scalability ( 600/20 = 30 whereas 40 * 20 = 800 )
These aren’t exact figures as I haven’t gotten full quotes yet . I’m looking at Allianz ( who do a policy for the 101st Airborne ) and at Arachas ( who also do Film Production insurance) and I’m thinking of asking Axa as well .
Gives you an Idea though , that likely if there are 10 – 20 members , Annual subscription should be in around €50 .
I’ll be sending a mass mail on this soon
Regards
SeanIt was a tough day this Sunday but we got some great work done . Wet and stiff actors and a long day but great work from everyone there’s some great stills that I’m sure Dan will pop up here .
The Crane we used for that shot over the gates in the school is just cool . I want one on every shoot now .
I’m really excited about this year , a lot of good things happening that really make it all feel worthwhile .
Really enjoyed the shoot today and Well done to everybody , the crowd were really great and everyone really pulled their weight , it was a real pleasure to see how well a shoot can go, and it’s always been good , but I can really see everything raising up a notch , without a hitch.
For those who didn’t make it along today, not to worry there’ll be more opportunities over the year to get in on a shoot,
So we’ll see you thereAgain thanks to everyone who was there I really really enjoyed it
Sean
#So tired Last Night , I forgot to mention the amazing help we had from the Staff at the Crane Lane , Felix really looked after us , and Many thatnks to Benni and Guillermo for greenlighting it in the first place. Justin the sound engineer went above the call of duty to come in on a Sunday and hook up the CD player for us. Really was great and we were well looked after.
Sean
Good input Vad
1. We haven’t actively recruited to the website in about a year ( I know I can’t believe it either as membership has Doubled ) Obviously a good amount of members is a good thing but I don’t think it’s vital to have like 500 members before anything can be done. We start with those that are interested in starting and build from there.
2 Take the point that it’s quiet in here. I will say though that the original burst of online activity here translated well into actual offline partnerships and when people are busy working together they don’t tend to spend much time gabbing in Forums , ( I don’t know but I think we can check statistics for PM’s and hits as I’m fairly certain a lot of people post privately to each other and log in to see what’s happening while not posting up )
And finally as to being a club about making films with it’s members well we have a good history already ( 4 films screened in two years in the Cork film Festival , one of those in competition, and about 11 other shorts done for different competitions we’ve entered . There have also been other projects by members or involving members that we wouldn’t have been directly involved in but which have been successful.
Tomorrow we’ll be in the Crane Lane shooting the final scene in a Music video we’ve been doing for Val Hely ,Directed by Sean Breathnach, and we’ve called for members to come along and help out being the crowd , and it looks like there’ll be upwards of 30 people tomorrow there. So I think that tells you a little about the commitment that people show here . It’s great, and I’ve never failed in being amazed by how much people are willing to get behind a project and make it happen. Next week we begin shooting on "Pork Pies" a script of Dans . Inky is nearing the end of shooting for "Transition Year" Teatowel is about to get going on a few projects soon too and I ‘m looking forward to those.
I’m really looking forward to this years shooting , having spent a long time pulling things together I think we’re building good momentum now. Hence the decision to try and make it an official club , to go and get the funding and the resources to build it further and support projects with more than our experience and graft and add a little more to it all.I’ll see if I can answer that there
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The aim of the club is to engage in and promote filmmaking in the Cork region for the benefit of members and the public at large.
[/quote:459bc]That is the club should make films using it’s members and their talent and then promote those films ( To festivals , distributors ,holding screenings etc )
I’d prefer that membership fees go towards resources ( equipment , licensed software, insurance and promoting the club)
THan specific projects although that may be possible . Realistically no amount of subscriptions is ever going to fund a film , Donations and fundraising might , but might not go the distance and it might not be sustainable . People still need to do the work on their own projects and funding , but we would be able to pool resources and talents to make that whole thing more achievable. And Fun as opposed to stressful and disheartening as it can be at times.The thing with the membership fees is not an easy thing , I could pick a figure but that’s not the best thing to do . If we come around to an agreed strucure and we know how many people are genuinely interested , we can hold the first AGM and vote in officers , have the officers analyse things and present it back to people then have a vote on it to set the membership fee , reviewing it annually.
One of the things I had thought about would have been that members would get a free season Pass to Futureshorts in Cork
that would be worth about 50 eur, The Issue of insurance is another one , I’m trying to get a quote on that at the moment So that would give a better idea of how much would be needed in subscriptions . All in all I don’t want to be paying too much myself so …Hope that helps !!
Sean
I had a chat with a colleague who has experience of forming clubs and was involved in a golf club before and He gave me a little advice .
I’ve made 2 small changes highlighted in red here , relating to mentioning specifically that the officers of the comittee are responsible for day to day running of the club and also making provision for resignation of officers .
Sean
Bring a friend ,
Director hasn’t discussed dress , so just wear something nice , as if you were going to a gig .
PM SeanBreathnach with the offer of crewing , but I think we might be covered.
It’s going to be fun , I’m looking forward to it !!
I’ve bought an envelope and all already …………
Mightent be able to afford the macbook air to go in it but sure live and hope
Haven’t seen the Cinema release , Watched it in the Cork Film Fest Opening Gala , Much impressed I must say !
Sun 27th Jan Music video shoot
Crew Call 11am at the Crane Lane
Extras call at 12pm at the Crane lane
Everyone finished and Out the door by 4 pm
Looking forward to it !!!
